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    Tags: application, semiotics, synaesthesia   

    Some reflections on a creative brainstorm I had with Dan last night. We could create, in the form of a multi platform application, deceptively simple yet immensely powerful tool/toy to enhance individual’s capacity to appreciate greater depth and subtlety of sensory experience and cause-effect relationships.

    The idea looks like a sound activated, fluid, dynamic, responsive animated image (sound, light, shape and colour) rendering screen filler. Using one’s voice to sing to your mobile app, for instance, would allow you to create and record a multi-dimensional sound and animated image-scape. This simple interface could open the possibility for some profound state experiences, much as do the dance parties so popular with many folks, and make available access to deeper levels of insight and intuition simply because of the precision of the rendering of a type of spontaneous semiotic synaesthesia. The sharing of these multimedia files could open possibilities for folk to inspire and uplift each other in simple yet powerful ways.

    Underneath the bonnet, sound, colour and movement are related through proven resonances using the mathematics of wavelength correlations and complex geometry.

    This is a first pass at the idea, which I feel holds exciting potential – comments?

    @aay @ddrrnt @lukestanley @poietic @seh @smurp

     
    • antiface 2:51 am on November 23, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I found this earlier today, something which may be a good lead in the game of trying to reinvent digital communication.

      Emotion-On-Demand Plug In For Virtual Characters – http://www.technologyreview.com/view/507786/psychologists-release-emotion-on-demand-plug-in-for-virtual-characters/

      Another vision I had recently has to do with Dance Notation. Not sure what others might know about Dance Notation, but it’s something I’ve kept a close eye on for the last decade or so. Here are some examples of things that might inspire the next generation interface..

      http://www.credo-interactive.com/products/danceforms/index.html

      http://www.movement-notation.org/

      http://www.ewmncenter.com/133376/Movement-Notation-1-1-1

      http://dancewriting.org/

      http://tapdancenotation.com/KahnotationPage.html

      http://donhe.topcities.com/pubs/led.html

      http://user.uni-frankfurt.de/~griesbec/LABPADE.HTML

      My reasoning comes from my deep understanding of arts & culture as well as writing systems. I understand how humans would come up with proto-writing systems. I have the uncanny ability of putting myself in that state, of being an early human. I can abstract away my life experience, my contact with modern technologies, etc., and experience, like many others can and do, the fundamentally human experience of just being-human.

      My interest in Dance Notation has nothing to do with dancing. It has to do with a 3-dimensional plane where movements can be transcribed. That’s all. It’s the ability of transcribing movements in space, a body’s movements, onto paper so others can read it.

      My vision of the perfect interface would involve a 3D timeline where I could watch a short animation of some fundamental human experience. Say someone communicates to me, through the interface, his or her “Experience of purchasing cigarettes at the store”. I could watch a 15-25 second animation over a 3-dimensional plane, of the movements involved, the individual’s movements. Then in another module, I could watch an animation of the different changes in facial aspect, affect, you know, all the important information, facial expressions, posture, non-verbal language, proxemics information, i.e. distance between individual and other objects or persons and so on.

      That way, visually, I could “grasp” an entire experience.. I could play it back, I could perhaps see the individual’s annotations, share my own annotations.. Then all you need is an easy way for people to make these short animations.. and then you could catalogue the entirety of human experiences.. all categorized, with a faceted search interface so you can navigate/browse the “Human Experience Genome” collection..

      But forget eye-candy, I have an overwhelming feeling that people are going for eye-candy, when eye-candy should never be the first step in the development of something like this. Specification first, look & feel later..

      I also think creativity and creative expression should not be the first goals for the interface. First, I think you want a system like a writing system or simple communication technology.. You want to be able to use it so communicate certain things.. once you have the framework, the specification, you can build a prototype, and later on you can get people to test it, and then people can have a field day expressing themselves creatively.. but for me the basic design questions have nothing to do with creative self-expression.. you’re buiding a technology that, yes, is designed to support an endless number, endless flow of states, experiences, communications, etc.. but your design goal is to make it very open and extensible.. and if you focus on eye-candy early on, it will blind you.. so most of what I’ve seen so far is pure eye-candy, it’s fun for the first 5 minutes and then grows old and boring.. it outlives its utility rather quickly.. I personally go back to using an actual pad of paper and a pencil rather quickly after testing eye-candy-rich apps like that.. or video demos, I watch them and it makes me feel something for about 5 minutes, then I go back to reality..

      Also, does anyone actually have a need for this thing? Did people express that they needed this thing? Does anyone really need it, or is it just what the designers need? That may be great, the desire may be great, but in the long-term it will have zero viability if it doesn’t answer a basic human need..

      Sorry if I sound like an ass, I’m just here to check that dreaming stays connected to physical reality. Or else if what people want is eye-candy, then give them LSD instead of building a new technology.. buy a bunch of LSD in bulk and give it to people.. they will have super eye-candy experiences and do lots of multidimensional multisensory communicating.. πŸ˜‰

      • ddrrnt 11:05 am on November 24, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        @antiface I certainly wouldn’t count out creative expression and interactive eye-candy. Whatever we end up designing with be compelling and attractive, because it has to be. At this point we’re simply tossing around ideas.

        As you know at YWorlds we’re going to “invent and teach the world to use a universal high level visual language to represent complexity across barriers of language, culture and inherited linearity.” Expressing emotions with our voices and in dance with sensors that may recognize and annotate the inputs and transform them into soundscapes and visualizations that evoke a capacity to communicate more fluidly, not just with each other, but with machines. Who knows?

        Consider this: http://www.ted.com/talks/view/lang/en//id/1110

        And what Thomas W. Malone from the MIT Center for Collective Intelligence recently wrote:

        … we’re also trying to understand the science behind the deeper phenomena of humans working together or humans and computers working together in ways that will help us understand how to create new kinds of human or human and computer cooperatives or collective intelligences.”

        http://edge.org/conversation/collective-intelligence

        Thanks for your response, Alex. I liked the article re: the emotion on demand plugin. Ttyl.

    • AAY 3:55 am on November 26, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      What stimulating ideas! My quick response to the google map, and any other effort of its kind, is that it must be created and understood through its objectives. The objective of google appears to be to make money for its shareholders by utilizing large scale unpaid societal contributions and its technologies to make markets and products and services that it can dominate and monetarize. Y Worlds has as its objectives nurture, equality, truth and systems. These principles take us in a different direction. Y Worlds is developing it full up business plan right now and it will have, does have today, a simple set of models that guide us. And we are designed to be self generative – we create amazing mixes of people and resources and nutrients and environments and let them flourish and benefit and share with the world.

      Regarding semiotics, we believe the essence of what we want to do revolves around objectives, meaning, value, autopoeisis, pattern (both aesthetic and highly effective), and creative expression based upon a core foundation of a new and better language to address complexity and systems and multiple variables moving in space and time. If we stick with meaning and value for a moment, consider anything and deconstruct it into the small set of meanings and values that you want to either extract or communicate or organize. Our challenge is evolve a new system that is compelling, that works, that is creator/user oriented, and that delivers meaning at the desired level. There will be massive room for robust, creative interpretation – but within a relatively simply new language of color, shape, pattern, motion within fixed cellular ontological models that are robust, scalable and adaptable.

      Capturing representational sensory experiences, cause and effect meanings, movement across space and time, all are integral to the approach we have in mind. It is a meld of a universal base semiotic language, powerful tools for creative expression and representation and organization and database/rerieval.

      We image real time browser based generative engines that eventually become rich video game like worlds. There is no reason we cannot today build such a beast that offers a form of computer aided life that is rich with expression, meaning and intimate communication. Alan

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    @aay here is John Ringland’s site http://www.anandavala.info/index.html that i mentioned that @gd introduced me to … i have barely started exploring the material but have found more than enough to spark my curiosity. maybe we can all meet for a discussion sometime

     
    • gd 6:52 pm on November 15, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Seth, a simple visual representation of the concept of symbolism may help us orient ourselves in preparation for exploring the more complex area of semiotics, here is a diagram that John created a while back that informs this area at the level of symbology http://allisasis.com/cybershaman/symbolism-101/

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    Tags: RDF semantic linked-data collective intelligence visualization   

    There is a very interesting conversation going on at the FB P2P group page.

    An excerpt by Poor Richard: “I am imagining a semantic ontology according to which the key ideas and data of this content could be parsed and tagged to form a distributed database using semantic linked-data structures. This would help transition the collective knowledge base of the research, activist, and social entrepreneurial communities into a machine-readable, semantically linked, searchable form.”

    And another one, most releavant here: “Another part of the “research information system” I am visioneering is pattern detection and recognition. An ontology gives us a set of semantically charged patterns. Then what we need is a pattern language with which to parse existing content and match it with our ontology. I am thinking of something like the “regular expressions” used in the old unix text editors or in the Pearl and Awk programming languages I once used.”

    Now, I have been thinking a while around such ideas. Ontology (e.g. using OWL) as proposed academically has some drawbacks, as it would imply everybody to share and adopt the same ontology. This looks rather difficult.

    Without going too much into details, I have been imagining some very different approach. By my observation, collective intelligence works best when it is decoupled in time and space – distributed. As an example, as a bread job I have been implementing a web site recently. For all the pieces I could not immediately find a solution, I browsed the web and found the information I need – from PHP details, to CSS, to javascript. That is standard practice developing and collective intelligence at best.

    Another great example is twitter. At its heart are short messages. Like lego pieces. It’s then up to minds to actually mesh-up tweets, make links, etc.

    So I am imagining an approach similar to this instead of some kind of platform for a next step. We already know the power of folksonomies, and there are great tools like Diigo out there. The problem is these are non-linked data with limited capabilities for harnessing.

    I am thinking of a tagging folksonomy approach which would enrich or publish data to RDF. Having RDF data we than can re-map all this data semantically. We can tag data with geo-tags, and visualize them on maps. They can be tagged in other forms to visualize differently (e.g. connections between projects, groups, etc.). We can tag videos and pictures to make them searchable, etc. People could come up with countless new ways of visualizing data – where Visual Y would pick up…

    Interested in opinions if this makes sense. Thanks for reading.

     
    • seh 4:36 pm on October 19, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      BTW, this reminds me that IEML http://ieml.org could be considered an alternative to RDF in some cases, although RDF could be used as a data format for expressing it, or in combination with arbitrary RDF URI’s

    • Poor Richard 4:59 pm on October 19, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Greets, tawhuac

      I’m glad you picked up on that P2P fb thread. There’s more on this topic in the Next Net and Global Survival Google Groups, and I’ve also been tossing it around with folks at the W3C Read Write Web Community Group and various mail lists.

      The trouble with folksonomies like you get from diigo or the like is no category/subcategory organization. You might impose this later, perhaps, but after the fact the semantic relationships between tags are not as clear as when you first assign them to a tweet, web page, link or whatever. I may be wrong about this, but it seems important at this point.

      Using Diigo as an example, it has some great features, not the least of which is poping its tagging dialog up in whatever your active window may be and automatically capturing the url, etc for you.

      What Diigo and other similar apps don’t do:

      1. let you access your entire existing folksonomy, alphabetized, in the dialog box or auto-complete if you manually type a tag. So you wind up with many variants of the essentially the same tag.

      2. let you hierarchically group tags into categories or sub categories, and define those on the fly

      3. let you define crosslinks between tags, categories, and subcategories (tags and subcategories may relate to more than one main category)

      4. they don’t publish the data to RDF or some linked-data format.

      What do you folks think?

      PR

      • tawhuac 5:06 pm on October 19, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for responding Richard!

        The trouble with folksonomies like you get from diigo or the like is no category/subcategory organization.

        Well that’s exactly the point of tagging, to get rid of categorization, because you’ll never get the categorization right. Tagging allows multi-dimensional categorization, and a simple search by tag is in fact a “click” on a category, so this

        2. let you hierarchically group tags into categories or sub categories, and define those on the fly

        thus doesn’t seem like someting I’d want to have…
        The key in your comment, and the point why I was writing the post, is exactly this:

        What Diigo and other similar apps don’t do:

        Which however we could do here using RDF or similar semantic approaches.
        And then visualize the data. πŸ™‚

        • ddrrnt 10:48 pm on October 19, 2012 Permalink | Reply

          I’ve utilized a syndication plugin for WordPress into which diigo RSS can be fed and content categorized and sub-categorized to our heart’s content.

          @aay We could set up a space to aggregate bookmarks from Diigo. I’d suggest that we have a conversation surrounding the YWorld’s preferred folksonomy, if there isn’t one already.

    • openworld 4:13 am on October 22, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Stephanie LeMieux has some intriguing ideas on a hybrid approach to folksonomies and taxonomies (slide 18 onwards) at http://www.slideshare.net/Earley/hybrid-approaches-to-taxonomy-folksonmy … useful for YWorlds?

    • tawhuac 1:45 pm on October 22, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks Mark, it looks very useful to me and sparked some thinking!

    • poietic 9:44 pm on November 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      hi tawhuac,

      i’ve been researching the semantic web and structuring meaning through ontologies, folksonomies, folksontological approaches, IEML, gamification of semantic tagging, and also the data analysis side of it.

      i’ve also been sort of prototyping graph networks manually using a tool called Compendium for many years, and we just launched a collaborative platform inspired in part by that. check out metamaps.cc.

      it is our imagining of how these nebulous infocologies can be mapped and traveled.

      Basically we want to give you the ability to create and navigate knowledge networks fluidly, and build up both structured and unstructured relations. it is in its infancy but i’d like to collaborate with both you and others here on building knowledge networks.

      definitely open to talk about the rationale and reasoning behind design, and the feedback map also has some good insights.

      if you’d like an invite, i can post the invite code to this community. there are also others in yworlds who can invite you as well πŸ™‚

      p.s. we are doing this from an integrative commons-based approach.

    • tawhuac 1:22 pm on November 7, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Ishan, definitively very interested and thanks for the open invitation, appreciated. I checked metamaps.cc, and I like the navigational and the filtering elements very much, albeit failing to see the collaborative platform part in it so far. Unfortunately I lack skills in 3D development yet, but I could also picture traversing “nebolous infocologies” in 3D virtual space…

      • poietic 5:00 pm on November 7, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        yeah, we haven’t yet built the feature to share maps, but if you do create public or commons topics, those can be seen and linked to by everyone else on the platform.

        you can go to http://metamaps.cc/users/new and use the invite code: 1ak3xvjq

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